|- was der Teilnehmer "Ewing" im Forum "democratic
underground" herausfand zum Thema konkreter Vorwarnungen einiger Israelis
am 11.9., und hier
auch noch ein Kommentar aus tenc.net. Man kann es drehen und wenden,
die israelische Besatzungspolitik brutal finden
und so weiter, aber der 11. September hat mit Israel herzlich wenig zu
tun. Mit der Ausnahme, dass die Warnungen
des Mossad ignoriert wurden.
I notice several secret services spying in several countries and having different foreknowldge. Well known is Echelon. In economics there is a lot of spying even between "friends". So what is special about the Mossad? We dont even know WHAT really happened - but there are people who say they know who did it. What?
Who did or did not combine the dots? Who did or did not scramble the interceptors?
The Mossad? The secret service which WARNED and fights terrorists (you may call them liberation fighters ...) worldwide? What the hell makes this secret service so interesting except that it was rather close to the so called hijackers? My guess is: the CIA was much closer. VERY close. Meltingly close. When I see i.e. Almihdhar - identically. Without proof - but with incredibly many hints.
So who is obsessed to link Israel with 911? Whose damned idea could this be?
There is the story about the owner of the WTC, who maybe will gain a fortune by the insurance. But nowadays he lost a fortune. And all the companies in the WTC -Israeli and Arab ones - too. Who is "investigating" the involvement because of gains and losses? What sense does it make if not to layout red herrings?
Since "whatreallyhappened.com" offers a link
to this website, without apparently understanding what it says, with the words
" 10/13/02 Foreign web sites pick up more on the Israeli links
into 9-11 and the US Government"
here is my statement:
I do NOT agree with any theory concerning an Israeli or jewish involvement in 9/11. I regard "whatreallyhappened" as an antisemitc site.
The Odigostory and the story about the young men who cheered and
the information about ICTS are linked and told on this website since one
year - since it happened. (So even the word of "pick up more" is wrong.)
It was not the Mossad which kept the interceptors down or read pet goat stories.
| About Odigo:
This case is for me closed since months. I came to the conclusion, that Odigo was warned by insiders around the NeoCons.
Here is the chain:
Conrad Black owns Hollinger Inc.
Furthermore Perle sits on the board of Jerusalem
Post, who was concerned about their employees in an article on Sep11th.
But more interesting is that Hollinger Digital
Inc. (the private equity arm of Hollinger International ) also invested
in Onset Technology in August 2000
Comverse finally owns another communication company, which is Odigo since January 2001.
The Odigo messenger warning was described
Alex Diamandis, the president of sales and marketing, claimed many employees received a warning a couple of hours before 8:53 AM on Sep11th.
I couldn't find it out, but i'm sure ZIM or the Ofer Brothers have some friends at Hollinger, which would explain their prior knowledge. (Yes, i'm convinced that Richard Perle was one of the conspirators)
But if the Mossad even knew that the attack would end in the towers, then they maybe warned them, too.
While we are here, more about Hollinger Inc. and shadow man Conrad Black aka Lord Black of Crossharbour:
Lord Black has held these or equivalent
or similar positions since 1978. He currently serves as the Chairman and
as a Director of Telegraph Group Limited, London, U.K., and as a Director
of the Jerusalem Post, The Spectator (London); of Brascan Limited and the
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, both of which are public reporting
companies in Canada, and as a director of Sotheby's
His wife Barbara Amiel Black is Vice President, Editorial and Director of Hollinger Inc.
Mrs. Black was the editor of The Toronto Sun from 1983 to 1985, a columnist of The Times and senior political columnist of The Sunday Times of London from 1986 to 1994 and The Telegraph from 1994 to 1998.
Paul B. Healy, Vice President, was a Vice President of The Chase Manhattan Bank, N.A. for more than five years prior to October 1995.
Dwayne O. Andreas, another director, was Chairman of President Reagan's Task Force on International Private Enterprise from 1983 to 1985.
The Hon. Richard R. Burt, yet another director, was United States Ambassador to the Federal Republic of Germany (DDR) from 1985 to 1989.
Shmuel Meitar, another director has also ties to Israel. Mr. Meitar served as President of the Aurec Group which includes Golden Channels, the largest cable television franchise in Israel, and Golden Pages, the Israeli Yellow Pages. Mr. Meitar has been a director of Jerusalem Post since 1992 and also serves as a director of Golden Pages Ltd.
Every director at Hollinger has interesting backgrounds, so i will list all of them.
Hon. Robert S. Strauss was United States
Ambassador to the Russian Federation until 1992 when he resigned
and rejoined his former law firm. He has also served as a Director
of General Instruments Inc. from 1991 to 1997 and as a director of Gulfstream
Aerospace Corporation from 1993 to 1998.
Lord Weidenfeld served as a Director of
Hollinger Inc. from September 1993 until 1995. Lord Weidenfeld is
a Director of The Jerusalem Post.
About Richard Perle you should check out my article at SCOOP.
Finally "Mr. Everywhere", Henry Kissinger
About the Moving Systems story:
"...The van belonged to a Mossad front company called Urban Moving Systems. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was pulled over, and five Israelis: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari, all between 22 and 27 years old...
According to the police report, one of the men said they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. Sivan Kurzberg, the driver, said, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."
The case was turned over to the FBI's Foreign
Counterintelligence Section because the FBI believed Urban Moving Systems
was a “cover for an Israeli intelligence operation,” ABC reported..."
I guess, Moving Systems and even Daniel Levin on one of the planes knew a lot, but haven't been able to connect all dots in time or got killed on purpose.
They had been probably part of the arrested Spy Ring, who monitored the muslims at the flight schools and had first no clue what's going on.
Another article (probably about the students, who filmed the attack), which didn't reveal much:
September 13, 2001 --
"...Three men who celebrated as the
...Port Authority cops nabbed the three
as they drove along
..."The agency has decided it will not make
He was later responsible for the logistic organisations after the collapse of the Twin Towers.
In September 2001 he was working on an emergency plan for the Holland Tunnel.
Interestingly, this Lewis Eisenberg is now
campaigning for the Republicans:
The Sears Tower (-video) link might have been a rumour on purpose.
Another israel link is a private security
company called ICTS. It's an israeli company which is operative at almost
every US Airport, including the 4 Sep11th airports. This is however no
real coincidence for me, because the israelis/Tel Aviv are famous for the
best security in the world. However Boston Airport was probaly corrupted
by some manipulations.
Hope that's enough Israel, less Mossad and
no anti-semitism enough for you today. I still think the amount of
different prior knowledge is still in the majority here in the United
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